Our survey seeking views about Cardiff Council's proposal to create a 20mph zone throughout Radyr and Morganstown (apart from Parc Radur) has now closed.
We received 454 responses - and here are the main results:
The majority of those who responded support the introduction of the speed limit. The survey showed that 286 people agreed - and 164 people disagreed:
Comments about the zone included:
An even greater majority of those who responded support the introduction of a 20mph speed limit on the road where they live. The survey showed that 325 people agreed - and 122 people disagreed.
This may suggest that people agree that lower speed limits can be justified - and can bring benefits to residents - although they may be keener to see those limits introduced outside their homes than outside other people's homes.
In other words, the principle that lower speed limits can be beneficial seems to be accepted by 72% of respondents.
Most respondents believe that none of the roads in Radyr and Morganstown should be exempt from the speed limit. The survey showed that 235 people think that no road should be exempt - as opposed to 134 people who think that some roads should be exempt.
Comments about possible exemptions included:
Continuing with the same theme, most respondents believe that the entire length of the main road should be subject to a 20mph speed limit. The survey showed that 286 people agreed with this view - as opposed to 164 who disagreed.
Comments about this included:
When also asked a series of questions:
Here is the age breakdown of respondents:
The lowest support for a 20mph zone was amongst 25 to 34 year olds. Support is fairly constant between the ages of 35 and 64. It falls away slightly between 65 and 74 - and increases significantly at age 75 and over.
Here's the gender breakdown of respondents:
Not only were the number of respondents split almost equally between male and female - there was hardly any difference of opinion between the genders with regard to the proposed 20mph zone.
[NB: Following a claim on local social media that multiple responses from individual computers were possible, the results were analysed - and revealed that one respondent had submitted multiple identical responses at 2.00am on 15 January. All but one response from that respondent were removed - and steps taken to ensure that only one response per device could be submitted].
[NB: With regard to pollution, Cardiff Council has installed air pollution monitors along the main road - and initial readings suggest that pollution levels are around 50% of the maximum permitted levels. If the 20mph zone is introduced, monitoring will continue - and could inform future action with regard to traffic management and pollution. In addition, the UK Government is considering bringing its 2040 ban on the sale of all new conventionally powered petrol and diesel cars forward to 2035. As such, we may well see the proportion of electric and hybrid cars on our roads increasing in the intervening period. This, along with the promised park-and-ride facilities on the outskirts of Cardiff; proposed restrictions on HGV vehicles - and an improved rail service, could help reduce air pollution levels. On the other hand, of course, Plasdwr may lead to more traffic passing through Radyr and Morganstown].
[NB: Parc Radur may be included in a future 20mph zone proposal].
We have received the following advice from Katie Powis, Plasdwr's Community Liaison Manger. If you're driving through this area, you will probably need to leave slightly earlier than you normally would, to reach your destination on time. In a previous article, we referred to the fact that we are facing many more months of disruption.
Here's Katie's advice:
Essential works will be taking place throughout September and October to create the new Heol Isaf junction and install BT and drainage services across Llantrisant Road to the new development.
On the evening August 28th three-way traffic lights will be installed at the Heol Isaf roundabout to create a new crossing within the carriageway and complete road surfacing work. These lights are expected to be removed on September 2nd before the schools return.
On September 3rd, two-way traffic lights will be in place in front of the filling station to install a BT chamber, BT road crossing and to complete works to the northern footpath. This work can’t be installed and made safe to re-open the road during our usual 09:30-15:30 traffic light hours so we have permission for these lights to be in place 24 hrs a day. These works are due for completion by September 9th.
From September 9th, two-way traffic lights will be in place to the west of the filling station to install drainage across the road. These lights will be in operation during our usual 09:30-15:30 hours until October 2nd.
From October 3rd we have permission for these lights to be in place 24 hrs a day to complete the drainage installation, these are expected to be removed on October 12th.
We’re sorry for the inconvenience caused, our contractors are working hard to complete this work as quickly as possible.
Some residents will be aware that Llantrisant Road is to be closed to through traffic towards the end of the month. Rumours have been widely shared - with some fearing that HGV traffic would be diverted through Radyr and Morganstown.
We can now reveal what will actually be happening - following the Community Council's meeting with Cardiff Council earlier today.
Here, to begin with, is Cardiff's statement:
Vital drainage works will be carried out on Llantrisant Road
Llantrisant Road - from the junction with Heol Isaf to Cardiff Road (Creigiau) - will be closed in both directions from 9.30am on July 22nd for approximately three weeks, so vital drainage works can be carried out on the carriageway.
During the closure, the contractor will be carrying out work between 8am and 10pm from Monday to Saturday and from 9am until 10pm on Sundays.
The three week closure is the maximum amount of time that the road will have to close and if the work is completed earlier, residents, businesses and the general public will be notified in advance via an update press release. The work has been scheduled during the summer holiday, as research shows that after children break up from school, the traffic flow reduces significantly.
The Council has put plans in place to minimise disruption to residents and businesses. These include:
So what else do we know?
Is this happening because of Plasdwr?
No. This is a local authority project. The road surface and culvert are substandard just east of Creigiau. The work involved will require excavation of a trench of considerable depth, as well as resurfacing the road - making it impossible to keep the road open, or to open it when the day's work is done.
Cardiff Council has decided to undertake the work during the school holidays, when there is less traffic on the road and no school-runs to disrupt. Were the work not done, and the existing culvert collapsed, the road would be flooded - and an unplanned repair could easily take twice as long as the planned, summer-time repair.
What will happen to Heol Isaf?
Cardiff Council will be placing a great many diversion signs across the city and beyond - explaining that Llantrisant Road is closed - and directing traffic along alternative routes. These will include staying on the M4 (and traffic from Rhondda Cynon Taf joining the M4); then leaving the M4 at junction 33 - to drive to the Bay, or to leave at Culverhouse Cross to travel along the A48 towards Western Avenue (from where HGVs can turn left through Llandaf to approach the Plasdwr construction site).
Traffic will be diverted along Heol Isaf - but the existing weight restriction will remain in place. Even so, Cardiff Council hopes that a lot of traffic will follow the initial diversion onto the A48. The Go-Safe team will attend more often, keeping an eye on the speed of traffic on Heol Isaf. A temporary 20mph limit will not be introduced, because a consultation on a permanent 20mph Order is already underway. Cardiff's legal advice is that a temporary speed limit, imposed during the consultation period for a permanent speed limit, could lead to a legal challenge that the introduction of the temporary limit prejudiced the outcome of the consultation.
I live in Clos Parc Radur. What will happen to me?
After the Heol Isaf / Llantrisant Road roundabout, a chicane will be installed, to emphasise the point that the road ahead is closed. But local traffic and lorries delivering to the Redrow site will still be able to drive in and out of Clos Parc Radur. In fact, you will still be able to drive to St Fagan's this way. The road closure is just before Creigiau.
What if an HGV heading to Merthyr driver gets confused - and arrives at the Heol Isaf / Llantrisant Road roundabout?
A sign placed at the roundabout will instruct them to use the roundabout to make a u-turn and return back along Llantrisant Road.
If Heol Isaf does get busy, will traffic use Bryn Derwen / Drysgol Road /Windsor Avenue as a rat-run? And what about Golf Club Lane?
A sign will be placed at Windsor Road directing traffic along Heol Isaf. The possibility of closing Golf Club Lane for the duration is also being considered - to avoid its use as a rat run.
What about the bus service?
Cardiff Bus services to Radyr and Morganstown will be able to follow their current routes.
What about the emergency services?
They have been fully consulted and have plans in place to cope with the closure.
Will there be any temporary traffic lights near the Heol Isaf / Llantrisant Road junction works during this period?
No. Cardiff have instructed the Plasdwr contractors to keep that stretch of road fully open during the three week period.
Here's a map showing the closure scheme and related signage. Click on the map to see a full-size copy. (Right-click on the map if you want to download a pdf copy - which you can then expand on you screen, to view more detail). Note - the map shows the Heol Isaf weight restriction being lifted. This is not correct - the weight restriction will not be lifted:
Many residents of Radyr and Morganstown will be all too familiar with the roadworks at the junction of Heol Isaf and Llantrisant Road.
The traffic cones; the temporary lights; the random traffic queues; the occasional minor alteration to the route; the big yellow tractors; the bumpy roads...
Will it ever end?!
Sometimes, it can look as if the roadworks are almost done. We can see the shape of the new junction. Posts have been installed, to hold the new road signs. Kerbstones have been laid...
Surely, all that remains is to install the proposed traffic lights, connect them to the electricity supply, lay some more tarmac - and we're done?
However, there is much more to this than meets the eye.
We spoke with Plasdwr about progress - and this is what we've learned.
This is not a simple task. On the contrary, this is highly complex.
Connecting Plasdŵr to life's vital services is going to take some time. And it will happen at several places along Llantrisant Road, between Radyr and the western boundary of Plasdŵr.
To make matters even more complicated, Plasdŵr will involve several house-building companies - all working to their own timescales. And as each tranche of houses is developed, it will need its own supply of water, electricity, gas, communications - and a sewerage system. And, from time to time, an SUD will be required (a sustainable drainage system) which will involve roadside works - and associated pipes and services that may also need to cross Llantrisant Road.
As you can see from the list of vital services, this work will involve many different companies (such as Welsh Water, BT and several other utility providers). All working to different timescales - and all needling the appropriate planning permissions and licenses from the appropriate authorities.
So the bad news is that we face many years of roadworks along Llantrisant Road, with the Heol Isaf / Llantrisant Road junction being the first of many - to be followed closely by changes to the Clos Parc Radyr junction.
Both of these junctions will end up controlled by traffic lights. Cardiff Council has assured us that the timing of the lights will be adjusted and fine-tuned to give Radyr and Clos Parc Radyr residents enough of a green-light period to move out onto Llantrisant Road. We will monitor this in due course.
However, when the traffic lights are installed at the end of Heol Isaf, they won't be switched on until Cardiff Council agrees it is the right time to do so. They may, for instance, want the Clos Parc Radur traffic lights in place as well, before both sets of lights are turned on (to better control traffic flow). As we wait for them to be switched on, we may see a temporary roundabout installed at the Heol Isaf junction.
And the timing of all this?
It's difficult to predict, apparently - given the number of services to be installed at several locations - and the number of companies involved. We can, however, except to have to wait until mid 2020 before the majority of the Heol Isaf junction is completed. That's another 12 months of roadworks!
Not the best news, regrettably. And with the Clos Parc Radur junction works yet to begin, we can expect to be navigating these roadworks for a long time to come.
And what will this lead to?
Plasdŵr will bring more traffic, that's for sure. But we are promised:
Only time will tell, however, to what extent these developments will help ease traffic in and around Radyr and Morganstown.
There will be some positive developments. Including four new schools. And Plasdŵr’s propsed 'district centre' will offer employment opportunities - as well as providing us with a new retail centre, with a range of large and smaller stores to serve both Plasdŵr and its neighbouring communities. So we won't have to travel as far to visit a large supermarket, to stock up on life's essentials.
The district centre will be focused around a central square with community, health and leisure facilities - with the potential for new cafés, restaurants and pubs. Although work on the deisgn concept has begun (see here), work on the final design for the centre has yet to be started - with construction a number of year’s away.
At the end of the day, Plasdŵr will be a 15 to 20 year development. Not all of it will be built on our doorstep - so we won't see all of the mud and tractors - but life in our corner of the capital city will change for ever.
In the meantime, if you have a problem (with mud, noise, mess, stones in the road, faulty temporary traffic lights etc) or any other concerns (such as what will happen to the remaining hedgerows and trees) you can contact Katie Powis, Community Liaison Manager, for Plasdŵr on 07741 194199 or email firstname.lastname@example.org.
And, of course, you can attend the drop-in sessions that Plasdŵr arranges in Radyr, from time to time.
In the meantime, if you have any comments about this article - or about Plasdŵr, you can post them below.
Radyr and Morganstown Community Council met with Katie Powis, Community Liaison Manager for Plasdŵr, during the Council’s meeting on 15 November.
Discussions with Katie focused on the impact of the Plasdŵr development; the timing of forthcoming works; mitigating inconvenience for the local community and more. Also discussed were the talks held between Cardiff Council, Radyr and Morganstown Community Council, and Plasdŵr about the use of Section 106 money to improve road safety along Heol Isaf and Ty Nant Road.
Following those discussions, Plasdŵr’s lead developer Redrow very generously offered to transfer to Cardiff Council its £300,000 Section 106 money – and to do so with immediate effect, rather than wait for the statutory trigger point for releasing the money (which would be reached only after the sale of many more houses).
Council Chair, Ralph Vaughan, said: “Thanks to this generous contribution from Plasdŵr’s lead developer Redrow – and their community-minded spirit – we have agreed with them and Cardiff Council that the early release of this money can be used to improve road safety along Heol Isaf and Ty Nant Road.
We have, therefore, asked Cardiff to begin this work by installing new, tabled zebra crossings in Morganstown, Min-y-Coed and near Radyr Medical Centre – and to use any remaining money to improve road safety near Radyr Comprehensive School.
We hope that Cardiff Council will agree with our proposals – which will set in motion the statutory consultation process, detailed design and tendering required in order to install the new crossings. Without this kind contribution from Plasdŵr’s lead developer Redrow, none of this would be possible.”
5 December 2018
We responded to planning objectives prepared by consultants working on the Plasdwr District Centre (the proposed, very large retail park close to Llantrisant Road).
Here's an illustration of how the site might look - as shown on the Plasdwr website. How does it look to you? Nice and welcoming? Or bleak and characterless?
Here's our response:
Town and Country Planning Acts 1990 (As Amended)
Partial discharge of condition 44 (District Centre design code) of 14/02733/mjr
Please see below comments by Radyr and Morganstown Community Council with regard to the design of the District Centre.
The centre is likely to be used very frequently by the residents of Radyr and Morgansrtown, thus our great interest in the site.
We would like to see:
We hope you find these comments to be of use - and we would be very happy to discuss these views with the relevant companies and authorities.
With best wishes.
Huw Onllwyn Jones
Radyr and Morganstown Community Council
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