Our survey seeking views about Cardiff Council's proposal to create a 20mph zone throughout Radyr and Morganstown (apart from Parc Radur) has now closed.

We received 454 responses - and here are the main results:

The majority of those who responded support the introduction of the speed limit. The survey showed that 286 people agreed - and 164 people disagreed:

Comments about the zone included:

• Speeding is a serious problem in Radyr. I've seen cars doing nearly 40mph on Heol Isaf and not stopping at zebra crossings.
• This has to happen, so many cars go too fast along Heol Isaf, the pavements are very narrow and the sheer volume of traffic makes crossing the road very difficult.
• Absolutely; we live in a residential area with many community amenities  For our next next generation we need to create an environment that feels safe and allows for use of bicycles and encourages people to walk more. This ticks some major boxes: sustainability, community, health & wellbeing.
• The speed is far in excess of even 30mph. Dropping it down to 20mph and adding more crossings and safety measures for all residents will make it far safer for all.
• R&M is currently not pedestrian or cyclist friendly and frankly dangerous as used as an extension to the A470.
• 30 mph is fine. 20 is silly. Enforce the current speed limit, don’t impose a ridiculous one
• I think that this is too slow for many of the roads. You almost have to constantly brake. This surely pollutes with noise and extra emissions.
• Definitely not. It'd be too slow

An even greater majority of those who responded support the introduction of a 20mph speed limit on the road where they live. The survey showed that 325 people agreed - and 122 people disagreed. 

This may suggest that people agree that lower speed limits can be justified - and can bring benefits to residents - although they may be keener to see those limits introduced outside their homes than outside other people's homes.
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In other words, the principle that lower speed limits can be beneficial seems to be accepted by 72% of respondents.

Most respondents believe that none of the roads in Radyr and Morganstown should be exempt from the speed limit. The survey showed that 235 people think that no road should be exempt - as opposed to 134 people who think that some roads should be exempt.

​Comments about possible exemptions included:

• All Roads should be 20mph. That way it's more straightforward and less confusing for inattentive drivers
• Only a simple and consistent rule will work.
• These are very built up villages, I can't think of any road in Radyr or Morganstown that would be safe for cars to be traveling over 20.
• The main road, Heol Isaf, should be 20 mph - it’s very unsafe for children walking to school.
• We walk and cycle on all our streets.
• I see no reason for this area to continue to be dominated by cars - and anything that makes walking and cycling more pleasant is to be welcomed
• All roads should be 30 MPH unless there is a decent majority to the contrary.
• The main road going through Morganstown and Radyr should stay as 30mph
• All main roads should remain at 30, so as to ensure reduced pollution and flow of traffic. 20mph zones focus on drivers staring at the dashboard as opposed to full focus on the road.

Continuing with the same theme, most respondents believe that the entire length of the main road should be subject to a 20mph speed limit. The survey showed that 286 people agreed with this view - as opposed to 164 who disagreed.

​Comments about this included:

• Speak to the people who walk from Morganstown to one of the 3 schools and ask what it’s like walking Heol Isaf
• Perhaps not the bit between Radyr and Morganstown (under motorway bridge) but I understand it’s cheaper to have 20 the whole way and will dissuade excessive traffic using Radyr as a high speed access to Cardiff
• It would reduce the attractiveness of the village as a commuter route to/from Cardiff, M4 etc
• It is very intimidating being a pedestrian or cyclist on Heol Isaf. Now try being 1m tall with cars whizzing past you on narrow pavements.
• Absolutely essential. Narrow pavements and speeding vehicles, including HGVs, mean it's only a matter of time before someone is killed.
• Heol Isaf is intimidating for pedestrians, cyclists, the young, the elderly and the disabled. 20mph will rebalance this situation, so the road can be shared more equally between local motorist, commuters, the local community and residents. A 20mph limit will lower the number of Sat Nav drivers coming off the A470 to rat-run into Cardiff. We could have walking buses taking pupils to school. None of these are possible whilst we continue at the mercy of the internal combustion engine.
• Possibly not the section between the M4 motorway bridge and the top of the hill
• Only a small area by the High School crossing should be 20mph. The rest of the road should all be 30mph.
• Only the built up parts, past churches and the High Street and especially past Radyr Comp

When also asked a series of questions:

• 71% agreed that a 20mph limit would be safer for pedestrians and cyclists
• 68% believe that a 20mph limit can improve life on residential streets
• 81% said that they would comply with a 20mph limit

• 53% said they would undertake active travel more frequently within a 20mph zone
• 51% said they believed 20mph would lead to less congestion

• 54% said that they did not think that a 20mph speed limit would lead to an increase in air pollution.

Here is the age breakdown of respondents:

The lowest support for a 20mph zone was amongst 25 to 34 year olds. Support is fairly constant between the ages of 35 and 64. It falls away slightly between 65 and 74 - and increases significantly at age 75 and over. 

Here's the gender breakdown of respondents:

Not only were the number of respondents split almost equally between male and female - there was hardly any difference of opinion between the genders with regard to the proposed 20mph zone.

[NB: Parc Radur may be included in a future 20mph zone proposal].

Some residents will be aware that Llantrisant Road is to be closed to through traffic towards the end of the month. Rumours have been widely shared - with some fearing that HGV traffic would be diverted through Radyr and Morganstown.

We can now reveal what will actually be happening - following the Community Council's meeting with Cardiff Council earlier today.

Here, to begin with, is Cardiff's statement:

Vital drainage works will be carried out on Llantrisant Road
Llantrisant Road - from the junction with Heol Isaf to Cardiff Road (Creigiau) - will be closed in both directions from 9.30am on July 22nd for approximately three weeks, so vital drainage works can be carried out on the carriageway.

During the closure, the contractor will be carrying out work between 8am and 10pm from Monday to Saturday and from 9am until 10pm on Sundays.

The three week closure is the maximum amount of time that the road will have to close and if the work is completed earlier, residents, businesses and the general public will be notified in advance via an update press release. The work has been scheduled during the summer holiday, as research shows that after children break up from school, the traffic flow reduces significantly.

The Council has put plans in place to minimise disruption to residents and businesses. These include:

• The weight restriction on Heol Isaf will remain in place (except for the usual access arrangements).
• The Council and our contractor have contacted businesses in the area and access will be maintained for both residents and businesses living or operating on Llantrisant Road from the junction with Heol Isaf to the junction with Heol St Y Nyll.
• Residents who live in the Rhydlafar Estate will also be given access in and out of their properties, enabling them to travel along Croft-Y-Gennau Road to get to the south of the city.
• All emergency services have been notified about the closure and protocols will be put in place to ensure that these services can operate effectively.
• All bus operators have also been informed about the closure and any amendments to any services which usually use this route will be clearly advertised on the busoperator’s website.
• Access for both pedestrians and cyclists will be maintained throughout the road closure via a temporary bridge.
• All electronic signs (VMS) will be used within the Cardiff and South Wales Trunk Road Agency (SWTRA) areas, so that advanced notice is given to all road users prior and during the road closure. A signposted diversion route will be in place. Those travelling north out of the city will be advised to travel along the A48 or use Heol Isaf to access the A470.
• Those travelling into Cardiff will be advised to use the M4 motorway. All HGV traffic to current development sites will be diverted along the A48 from Western Avenue.

So what else do we know?

Is this happening because of Plasdwr?

No. This is a local authority project. The road surface and culvert are substandard just east of Creigiau. The work involved will require excavation of a trench of considerable depth, as well as resurfacing the road - making it impossible to keep the road open, or to open it when the day's work is done.

Cardiff Council has decided​ to undertake the work during the school holidays, when there is less traffic on the road and no school-runs to disrupt. Were the work not done, and the existing culvert collapsed, the road would be flooded - and an unplanned repair could easily take twice as long as the planned, summer-time repair.

What will happen to Heol Isaf?

Cardiff Council will be placing a great many diversion signs across the city and beyond - explaining that Llantrisant Road is closed - and directing traffic along alternative routes. These will include staying on the M4 (and traffic from Rhondda Cynon Taf joining the M4); then leaving the M4 at junction 33 - to drive to the Bay, or to leave at Culverhouse Cross to travel along the A48 towards Western Avenue  (from where HGVs can turn left through Llandaf to approach the Plasdwr construction site).

Traffic will be diverted along Heol Isaf - but the existing weight restriction will remain in place. Even so, Cardiff Council hopes that a lot of traffic will follow the initial diversion onto the A48. The Go-Safe team will attend more often, keeping an eye on the speed of traffic on Heol Isaf. A temporary 20mph limit will not be introduced, because a consultation on a permanent 20mph Order is already underway. Cardiff's legal advice is that a temporary speed limit, imposed during the consultation period for a permanent speed limit, could lead to a legal challenge that the introduction of the temporary limit prejudiced the outcome of the consultation.

I live in Clos Parc Radur. What will happen to me?

After the Heol Isaf / Llantrisant Road roundabout, a chicane will be installed, to emphasise the point that the road ahead is closed. But local traffic and lorries delivering to the Redrow site will still be able to drive in and out of Clos Parc Radur. In fact, you will still be able to drive to St Fagan's this way. The road closure is just before Creigiau.

What if an HGV heading to Merthyr driver gets confused - and arrives at the Heol Isaf / Llantrisant Road roundabout?

A sign placed at the roundabout will instruct them to use the roundabout to make a u-turn and return back along Llantrisant Road.

If Heol Isaf does get busy, will traffic use Bryn Derwen / Drysgol Road /Windsor Avenue as a rat-run? And what about Golf Club Lane?

A sign will be placed at Windsor Road directing traffic along Heol Isaf. The possibility of closing Golf Club Lane for the duration is also being considered - to avoid its use as a rat run.

What about the bus service?

Cardiff Bus services to Radyr and Morganstown will be able to follow their current routes.

What about the emergency services?

They have been fully consulted and have plans in place to cope with the closure.

Will there be any temporary traffic lights near the Heol Isaf / Llantrisant Road junction works during this period?

No. Cardiff have instructed the Plasdwr contractors to keep that stretch of road fully open during the three week period.

Here's a map showing the closure scheme and related signage. Click on the map to see a full-size copy. (Right-click on the map if you want to download a pdf copy - which you can then expand on you screen, to view more detail). Note - the map shows the Heol Isaf weight restriction being lifted. This is not correct - the weight restriction will not be lifted:

Many residents of Radyr and Morganstown will be all too familiar with the roadworks at the junction of Heol Isaf and Llantrisant Road. 

The traffic cones; the temporary lights; the random traffic queues; the occasional minor alteration to the route; the big yellow tractors; the bumpy roads...

Will it ever end?!

Sometimes, it can look as if the roadworks are almost done. We can see the shape of the new junction. Posts have been installed, to hold the new road signs. Kerbstones have been laid...

Surely, all that remains is to install the proposed traffic lights, connect them to the electricity supply, lay some more tarmac - and we're done?

However, there is much more to this than meets the eye.

We spoke with Plasdwr about progress - and this is what we've learned.

This is not a simple task. On the contrary, this is highly complex.

Connecting Plasdŵr to life's vital services is going to take some time. And it will happen at several places along Llantrisant Road, between Radyr and the western boundary of Plasdŵr.

To make matters even more complicated, Plasdŵr will involve several house-building companies - all working to their own timescales. And as each tranche of houses is developed, it will need its own supply of water, electricity, gas, communications - and a sewerage system. And, from time to time, an SUD will be required (a sustainable drainage system) which will involve roadside works - and associated pipes and services that may also need to cross Llantrisant Road.

As you can see from the list of vital services, this work will involve many different companies (such as Welsh Water, BT and several other utility providers). All working to different timescales - and all needling the appropriate planning permissions and licenses from the appropriate authorities.

So the bad news is that we face many years of roadworks along Llantrisant Road, with the Heol Isaf / Llantrisant Road junction being the first of many - to be followed closely by changes to the Clos Parc Radyr junction. 

Both of these junctions will end up controlled by traffic lights. Cardiff Council has assured us that the timing of the lights will be adjusted and fine-tuned to give Radyr and Clos Parc Radyr residents enough of a green-light period to move out onto Llantrisant Road. We will monitor this in due course.

However, when the traffic lights are installed at the end of Heol Isaf, they won't be switched on until Cardiff Council agrees it is the right time to do so. They may, for instance, want the Clos Parc Radur traffic lights in place as well, before both sets of lights are turned on (to better control traffic flow). As we wait for them to be switched on, we may see a temporary roundabout installed at the Heol Isaf junction.

And the timing of all this? 

It's difficult to predict, apparently - given the number of services to be installed at several locations - and the number of companies involved. We can, however, except to have to wait until mid 2020 before the majority of the Heol Isaf junction is completed. That's another 12 months of roadworks! 

Not the best news, regrettably. And with the Clos Parc Radur junction works yet to begin, we can expect to be navigating these roadworks for a long time to come.

And what will this lead to? 

Plasdŵr will bring more traffic, that's for sure. But we are promised:

• a park-and-ride facility near Cardiff West services (construction of which may begin in mid 2021 - and which could have 1,000 spaces with access gained from Junction 33 of the M4 - and 250 spaces with access gained from Llantrisant Road);
• bus lanes (to encourage people out of their cars);
• more trains (and longer trains, to carry more people, more often);
• cycle lanes;
• safer pedestrian crossings (starting here, probably);
• more bus stops.

Only time will tell, however, to what extent these developments will help ease traffic in and around Radyr and Morganstown.

There will be some positive developments. Including four new schools. And Plasdŵr’s propsed 'district centre' will offer employment opportunities - as well as providing us with a new retail centre, with a range of large and smaller stores to serve both Plasdŵr and its neighbouring communities. So we won't have to travel as far to visit a large supermarket, to stock up on life's essentials. 

The district centre will be focused around a central square with community, health and leisure facilities - with the potential for new cafés, restaurants and pubs. Although work on the deisgn concept has begun (see here), work on the final design for the centre has yet to be started - with construction a number of year’s away.

At the end of the day, Plasdŵr will be a 15 to 20 year development. Not all of it will be built on our doorstep - so we won't see all of the mud and tractors - but life in our corner of the capital city will change for ever.

In the meantime, if you have a problem (with mud, noise, mess, stones in the road, faulty temporary traffic lights etc) or any other concerns (such as what will happen to the remaining hedgerows and trees) you can contact Katie Powis, Community Liaison Manager, for Plasdŵr on 07741 194199 or email [email protected].

And, of course, you can attend the drop-in sessions that Plasdŵr arranges in Radyr, from time to time.

In the meantime, if you have any comments about this article - or about Plasdŵr, you can post them below. 

We responded to planning objectives prepared by consultants working on the Plasdwr District Centre (the proposed, very large retail park close to Llantrisant Road).

​Here's an illustration of how the site might look - as shown on the Plasdwr website. How does it look to you? Nice and welcoming? Or bleak and characterless?